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Started by: First Mate (2395)


Sir Keir Starmer tried to influence the debate by referring to people in the galleries to strictly disorderly.

“I think Sir Keir should apologise to the House tomorrow.”

From GB News. Link

Started: 8th Feb 2024 at 17:05

Posted by: cheshirecat (1061) 

I think he should apologise.
He should not have deflected from the debate by using a person who was in the public gallery as a defence mechanism.

Replied: 8th Feb 2024 at 18:21

Posted by: First Mate (2395)

Paragraph 2130 of Erskine May, often referred to as the “Bible of parliamentary procedure,” provides guidance on how members in debate should conduct themselves. According to this paragraph, members should be brief and directly related to proceedings. Additionally, their statements should not be phrased in a way that is intimidating or seeks to influence debate when referring to people in the galleries. This rule ensures respectful and focused discourse during parliamentary discussions

Replied: 8th Feb 2024 at 18:35

Posted by: MrsC (91) 

Starmer made me cringe .

Replied: 9th Feb 2024 at 07:57

Posted by: gazzer (386)

She was not even in the gallery at the time of the event taking place , I do not believe it was intentional and the reply made it an issue.

Replied: 9th Feb 2024 at 09:33

Posted by: First Mate (2395)

I don't see any reports of him having apologised

Replied: 9th Feb 2024 at 12:42

Posted by: whups (13279) 

i dont see any apology from sunak either .

Replied: 9th Feb 2024 at 14:31

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15433)

I have been thinking about this all week, after watching Prime Ministers Questions on Wednesday, and I have considered the comments made about it on TV and the comments made in this topic, and my conclusion is that both Sunak and Starmer where at fault, in Sunak's case, about a minute or so before he made his unfortunate comment, Starmer had welcomed Brianna Ghey's mother into the Public Gallery, she might not have actually taken her seat, but Starmer knew she was going to be there, so in my opinion Sunak should have had the 'nous' (brains) not to mention the 'woman' comment, and it just goes to show how out of touch he is with reality, he is in his own arrogant little world, and I don't believe he takes any advice from anyone, it is Rishi's way or no way, and after the rout of the Conservatives at the next General Election, it won't be long before Rishi and his family will be on their way to a new life in America, probably in California and good riddance to him, but in his mitigation, Sunak made blunder, a thoughtless gaff, there was no 'malice aforethought' he did not do it on purpose, but Starmer's response, was made with 'malice aforethought' and he used that 'blunder' to cause the maximum political damage to Sunak, and in my opinion his comments were worse than Sunak's blunder, he should not have mentioned the blunder, for the same reason that Sunak should not have said what he said, because Brianna Ghey's, mother was in the Public Gallery, he is as guilty as Sunak is, but in his case it wasn't a thoughtless 'blunder' it was a deliberate and very nasty thing he did, with no regard for how it would have made Brianna Ghey's mother feel.

Replied: 9th Feb 2024 at 14:50

Posted by: whups (13279) 

maybe his "gordon brown " moment .

Replied: 9th Feb 2024 at 23:45

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15433)

Yes, that is exactly what I thought, when Gordon Brown called that woman a 'bigot' .

Replied: 10th Feb 2024 at 00:18

 

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